Once upon a time, a girl was chosen for a singular destiny, a life of solitary combat, ending, inevitably, in a premature but possibly noble death. She wasn’t the first, and nobody expected her to be the last. She was a dutiful soul, and went to war with the forces of evil, just as fate seemed to require. Then she expanded the fight, redefining her destiny by putting together a group of committed and powerful allies. In the end, she and these followers remade the world.
Vast oversimplification, right?
This Buffy the Vampire Slayer rewatch wrap-up post has been a long time coming, I know, in part because I’ve had a enormous cluster of other things going on (moving house! the lead-up to launching my new trilogy! adopting feral kittens!) but also because I needed time to digest seven seasons worth of columns and all those hours of TV.
Back when the show first aired, I was active on a number of newsgroups that seem horribly old-fashioned now in the age of the FaceTweet. BtVS was, I’ve realized, the first show I watched as it aired with a big online community, people who happily dug into every episode, exploring it line by line, monster by monster, scene by scene.
It was really fun, that first time, a little like being at the world’s biggest sleepover. Everyone there had the same favorite show! Nobody knew what was going to happen. Everyone had theories. After Jenny Calendar died, we all worried that our favorite character might be next.
The age of the kick-ass woman on TV was past its infancy, but in some ways she was still just toddling. We came out of the Seventies with Jamie Summers, a bionic woman who never really got to punch anyone, despite her super-strength, and the Angels of Charles, who did creditable crime fighting against Scooby-scale villainy and cowed their enemies by brandishing guns and cleavage at them. In the Eighties we got Ripley, of the Alien franchise, and things started to look up.
Xena preceded Buffy onto the small screen, and there was a matter-of-factness about that show that I hadn’t seen before. Here was a woman with combat skills… and she wasn’t being presented as a zoo exhibit. What surprised me even more, though, was when Xena’s sidekick Gabrielle started to get into battles. Say what? They’re gonna let two women fight? Effectively?
Buffy had that same yeah, of course attitude and smarter scripts.
If watching the show online with a bunch of pals was a sleepover, watching it with all of you was a master class.
It’s different, of course, simply because we all knew the whole story going in. We could look at a season two episode and already know what would become of the seeds the writers were planting. We knew who would lose an eye and who would hook up. We knew which storylines and characters we liked best. Separately and together, the fans of BtVS had analyzed the show scene by scene, frame by frame, character by character. For years!
As if all that weren’t enough, the show’s creators had gotten in on the act, giving interviews after the fact and speaking in DVD commentaries, talking about every and anything that went into the creation of the show. So, while the surprise of the unfolding story might have been gone, later viewings like this one occur with so much more raw data. It’s not just the episodes—it’s the thought and information built up around them.
So here’s a question: did anyone change their minds about a significant part of the series, as we watched it all here together? Did you go from being a Bangel shipper to a hardcore Spuffy advocate? If you considered Xander loyal, noble and true from the get-go, did our conversations about his treatment of Cordelia and Anya give you pause? Did anyone go from loving the Mayor or Glory to deciding Adam was the best villain ever?
I’m not sure I can say my gut feelings—the things I loved best about the show—shifted that much. Affection for a given character or person is, in part, about looking past their flaws, right… even when we maybe shouldn’t?
(Things I loved best, in no particular order: Xander, “The Zeppo,” all the other flagrantly comic episodes, the musical, Dark Willow, Faith, Giles being fatherly to Buffy, Giles being scary to just about anyone else, Angelus, the Mayor, Glory, Jonathan, and sometimes Dawn.)
What I did gain, as we all talked it through, was an appreciation for the nuances, a greater sense of how even-handed the show was even when it was showing me things I liked less.
(Also in no particular order: Tara’s death, the long build-up with the Slayettes, everything about Andrew, Giles’s various betrayals, Riley’s S5 pity party, the Doublemeat job, and sometimes Dawn.)
Watching the whole show again while discussing it here did, in particular, cast a good deal of light on seasons six and seven. I may have been a bit dismissive, on earlier viewing; in any case, our debates were illuminating. I still find many of those episodes tough to watch, but I agree with those of you who argue that their construction is sound—they are the sometimes-hard slogging that takes the Slayer and her Scoobies through to “Chosen,” and beyond. They have depths, I concede, even if the murk of those depths is off-putting.
A good deal of our collective enjoyment of the show and debate about same—in comments threads on various episodes—centered around Buffy’s romantic relationships. Romance generated a lot of the story’s heat as well as its conflict, and I’d argue Angelus’s return was what made season 2 some of the most unforgettable TV ever aired.
But what’s been most interesting to me about Buffy, this time around (and possibly the first time too, I’ll add, because memory is untrustworthy and it was a long time ago) isn’t who she’s dating but the growth she experiences in her career as a Slayer. It’s the way she transforms herself from someone the Watcher Council sees as a mayfly—an easily replaced and short-lived warrior, someone to control, use and throw away—into a key player in the battle between good and Big Bad. Changing the rules, building first a squad and then an army, and setting herself up to lead a higher and more effective fight against evil is a stunning accomplishment.
And what was best about the rewatch? Why, it was having that group viewing experience again, with all of you. Thank you all, very much, for coming back to Sunnydale with me. It has been a pleasure and a privilege.
A.M. Dellamonica has a book’s worth of fiction up here on Tor.com, including the time travel horror story “The Color of Paradox.” There’s also “The Ugly Woman of Castello di Putti,” the second of a series of stories called The Gales. Both this story and its predecessor, “Among the Silvering Herd,” are prequels to her new Tor novel, Child of a Hidden Sea.
If sailing ships, pirates, magic and international intrigue aren’t your thing, though, her ‘baby werewolf has two mommies’ story, “The Cage,” made the Locus Recommended Reading List for 2010. Or check out her sexy novelette, “Wild Things,” a tie-in to the world of her award winning novel Indigo Springs and its sequel, Blue Magic.
It just occured to me that Buffy’s arc exactly parallels that later experienced by Harry Potter–building first a squad of friends, and later an army, and going on to play a decisive role in the battle of Good versus Evil. Buffy’s an American show, and Rowling’s an English author, so she may never have seen it–but the parallel is close. Perhaps they both echo an underlying archetypical strucure.
Two and a half years on this rewatch…
I still think the Mayor is the best Big Bad.
“Hush” is still my favorite episode, followed by “Once More, With Feeling”
While S6 and7 of BtVS were better than anything else on TV at the time, I still like the first 3 seasons the best.
One thing that really stands out here is the continuity. We’ve noticed this in the DS9 Rewatch, where the writers/producers are sort of arc-ing the plots, but not completely, with lots of standalone episodes. Not many standalone episodes in BtVS. For my favorites you have to have watched most of the show to know what’s going on. This is the second show I really got into (B5 was the first, BSG the last) that really had the story arcs, continuity, and character growth over the series. And Joss and Co. did a better job of holding it all together than Moore and Co. did in BSG, which kind of fell apart halfway through.
@1, I’ve no idea if JKR was a fan, but yeah, we defenitely got to watch Buffy over here, as far as I remember we were usually a week or two behind.
Thank you, Alyx, for forging this community of Scoobies…
Having said that, I’ll go out on a limb and say that I like goofy young Willow over mature witchy Willow; Mayor #1, Glory #2; and Andrew to me wasn’t as annoying as others felt; he played a necessary role and tested the Scoob’s commitment to be inclusive good guys even when the includee was as annoying as catnip at a poker game…
And of course, my favorite character, the Imaginary Sister. Not always pleasant to be around, but what other series could add a player in the way they added Dawn and get away with it? And yes, at times we wanted to sing “Dawn, Please Go Away” but nevertheless…
It would take too long to list favorite moments (Willow consoling Spike on his inability to be scary, Willow noting that Scythe Matters, etc etc).
Thank you for the fun ride and for being, like the Buffster, the glue that held us together for so long!
I’m not quite like VampWillow — I don’t like all the parts — but that’s close enough.
Thanks for these reviews Alyx. They were great.
The thing I came to is that Buffy has horrible friends. Anya was evil, and generally I am happy with the way things turned out. But if I was Buffy, I would have snuffed Faith out right in the hospital. Ah well.
As you say, it’s because they’re both based on the same archetypal Hero’s Journey storyline. There are only about half a dozen basic story shapes in all of human history. It’s not that HP was especially influenced by BtVS. It’s that both of them were influenced by the same much earlier stories, as were about a billion other things.
I didn’t change any of the opinions I held coming into the re-watch. However, a lot of the opinions gained broader scope and a deeper perspective from the others’ opinions.
I still dislike the Dawn addition — and the character and personality — and still believe so deeply altering Joyce’s memories that include the physical, body memory, from the brain cells down through the uterine memory, is what killed her, no matter what the showrunners might think they know about it. :)
Love, C.
Alyx,
Thank you for this wonderful rewatch. I really enjoyed the ride you took us on. :)
Now, are there any plans on doing the same with Angel?
No plans for an Angel rewatch, Fiddler–my love there isn’t quite pure enough. I’m still pondering whether I have another rewatch in me, and what it might be.
Battlestar Galactica, please!
Trying to get my money’s worth out of Netflix, I finally decided to see what’s all this fuss regarding Buffy is all about. So, watching 1-3 episodes per night I finished few weeks ago. Then, remembering all these Buffy rewatch posts here I went through them and just finished with them too…
I’ve found out that BtVS can be a bit annoying to rewatch, in a good way. Even subjectively bad episodes tend to have plenty of good/fun/character development moments in them. So, on first re-watch nearing the end of season 3 I’ve skipped altogether just 2 eps, I think.
I enjoyed very much your re-watch on Tor Alyx, and also the comments from the other guys. There were quite a few mighty walls-of-text along the way to get over ;)
Deciding to watch BtVS turned out to be a great idea and I’m glad I persevered through the 1st season.
Also, I must say that IMO it makes a big difference during the particularly dismal (around Doublemeat Phallus time) part of season 6 when the viewer gets through it in a couple of days instead of a whole month.
And lastly, when they introduced Dawn for a few moments I doubted my sanity…
I’m a bit late to the party, but I’d like to offer a very big ‘thank you’ to Alyx for writing all these recap posts. Reading and commenting on these threads has been a great way to vicariously reexperience the show in its entirety all over again without having to actually rewatch the entire 100+ hours – and that’s always great.
Since I finished my complete watch of it, Buffy the Vampire Slayer has ceased to be my unequivocal favorite show of all time, but it has never slipped out of the top ten, and I don’t think that it’s going to any time soon. It’s not always the case where the lead of a great show is also a great character, but Buffy did that. She could very easily have been just a stock character – a witty inversion of a horror trope and a feminist statement – but instead the care of the writers and Sarah Michelle Gellar’s clever performance made her into a character as fleshed out and dynamic as any other top drama show.
In discussing the importance of BtVS to the age of the kick-ass woman on TV, I think that might be the most important takeaway. Buffy wasn’t the first female hero who could beat up the bad guys and hold her own against the men around her, but I think she might have been the first who did that and also had a complex personal life that was explored with thoughtfulness and nuance.
Out of the six full-length seasons (the first is more a prologue and mission-statement really) I think that three of them – two, three, and five – were genuinely brilliant. The others – four, six, and seven – were more flawed, but they all had episodes and moments that more than made up for it.
Sorting out a precise order for my favorite episodes would be impossible, but I’m fairly that a top fifteen list would be made up of these: “Prophecy Girl”, “Innocence”, “Passion”, “Becoming”, “The Wish”, “Hush”, “Who Are You?”, “Restless”, “Fool For Love”, “The Body”, “The Gift”, “Once More With Feeling”, “Normal Again”, “Selfless”, and “Conversations With Dead People”. There are a lot of additional mentions I could make, but then it would be in danger of turning into a top fifty list.
I’ve enjoyed this reread so much, seeing other, deeper views into some of the characters and episodes than I had m’self. Between the end of this rewatch and the almost-ended Dark Tower read, I’m running out of things to do on the internet, so feel free to do a rewatch (and if we’re throwing out ideas, might I suggest SG-1?).
It’s funny, as much as people may not like S5, that’s when I started, and if they’d taken the easy way out and had Buffy be all fixed and right as rain in two or three episodes, I likely never would’ve finished watching the season, much less go back and watch from the beginning.
What’s also funny is that, when somebody asks me which I think is better, Buffy or Angel, my first answer is almost always Angel, if only because, as a grown up, I felt like I connected more with the idea of working and having adult responsibilities and being flawed and working past the flaws to do your best anyway, but, during the course of the rewatch, especially when I’d read a particularly deep comment thread that meant I needed to go back and see the episode with fresh views, I realized that hindsight is not always twenty-twenty.
You guys rock.
And I still think that “Pangs” is my favorite episode (but that might just be because I like pie…and bears).
Thanks for taking on this rewatch. I’m not sure my opinions changed much, but it was interesting to argue them out.
One thing I did notice in my own viewing was a shift in the things that bugged me. Race and class came to the fore as major stumbling blocks, but so were the repeated story beats in seasons four thru seven (Buffy must self isolate, team must assemble for showdown, power level bump for Willow, etc.) and now that I’m older the relentless youth focus (anyone who looks over 3o is evil, ineffectual, ignorable, expendable, or some combination). That said I can admit that repeated story beats can provide a feeling of comfort and a youth marketed show that didn’t privilege youth would get canceled very quickly. Whedon’s inability to do world building and stick with it as always been a sore point.
I did find the monster of the week episodes were better than I remembered and Dawn made much more sense as a person. The amount the production team managed on a limited budget was probably more impressive this time. (Except for the CGI. The only CGI they ever got right were the vampire morph shots.)
Call it a mixed bag.
@15. tarbis –
Actually, even though the show obviously did have a youth focus, I would still disagree with this statement: “anyone who looks over 3o is evil, ineffectual, ignorable, expendable, or some combination”.
If you overlook that weird character assassination of Giles in the last season, and the somewhat stock characterization of Joyce in the first season, both of these were entirely sympathetic adult perspectives who helped to ground the Scooby gang. And there were adult figures scattered through the show who were sources of wisdom or helpfulness instead of hindrances – Jenny Calendar, Mr. Platt, Wood (misguided at times – but still on the side of the angels). Heck – you could even lump in Mayor Wilkins as part of this group. He may have been evil, but he was also allowed to make a point more often than not.
I also think that Whedon has been somewhat unfairly maligned for the poorness of his world building. The world building in the show isn’t great, but it isn’t bad either – the core mythology was sketched out well enough early on, and it was utilized fairly effectively to tell the story. Things fell apart in this area (among others) during the last two seasons, but by that point blaming Whedon is somewhat unfair, since he wasn’t coming up with it – he was mostly just signing off on Marti Noxin’s decisions.
I think Joss did build a detailed and believable world, but it’s less an external world than an internal one: it’s Buffy’s internal struggle, plus her close relationships. Those get developed very well, but he’s not trying to develop the external world in any real detail.
Also, whatever the strengths or weaknesses of S6-7, I think Joss remains responsible. He had plenty of involvement in those seasons; I think it’s unfair to blame Marti for any perceived shortcomings.
@17. Sophist –
Definitely agree on the first point.
Regarding the second point, I know that Whedon was still involved with the show during S6-7, but all the same I think it’s fairly apparent that during the time when those last two seasons were being made, he was putting most of his time and energy into working on Firefly, and the time left over was split between Buffy and Angel.
He may still have held ultimate responsibility for everything that the Mutant Enemy team came out with, but for practical intents and purposes a great part of the showrunner’s duties passed to Noxin in that time.
To be clear, I do not think that it is at all fair to say that Noxin “ruined” the show, as some fans are want to do. On the contrary, as I’m sure my comments in these threads have made clear, I think there is a great deal of value in the sixth and seventh seasons, and I’m sure that she deserves a good portion of the credit for that.
At the same time, while I’m pretty sure I don’t fall into the camp of Whedon idolators, I do think that he had an innate grasp of the dynamic of his characters – what they would do and say and feel – that was difficult to substitute for. And the diminishing of his hand on the tiller does seem to have coincided with a pronounced drop in the consistency of the show.
I think that the extent of Joss’ involvement in S6-7 is partly a matter of disagreeing about comparatives: was it “a lot” or “a little”? What I think we know for certain is that he wasn’t on set for most of those seasons, as he had been earlier. At the same time, he definitely was involved in creating the story lines for both seasons and in writing many of the episodes (and editing others). JMHO, but that’s enough to make him fully responsible.
Marti certainly deserves credit (or criticism) for those seasons because she was the showrunner. I just think it’s hard to separate out which decisions were hers and which were Joss’. For that reason, I personally treat them as jointly responsible, for better or worse (mostly better, IMO).
Hi, Alyx! I had pretty much given up on your final essay, so I was thrilled to see it. Can’t say the rewatch changed any of my views, Spike’s still my favorite character, the Mayor’s still my favorite villain, can’t really pick out a favorite season or episode, but I enjoyed it all the same. Thank you so much.
BTW, I’m currently grooving on OUaT’s Captain Hook for many of the same reasons I love Spike.
Have found another BtVS rewatch elsewhere, and glutton for punishment that I am, I’ve taken to commenting there as well.